. >> let me guess, you've been in france. >> how do you know? i nailed it. >> bill: so you're roaming around dc and i always ask you this question, but it's interesting to me. what, a coupe dozen people? >> about two dozen. >> bill: all right. so whatha percentage of them hae any includ clue at all what's a? >> half of them were totally clueless. it's because it's so boring. no one cares. they're talking about trillions of dollars, and they do this man who cried wolf all the time. they have these cliffs with the debt ceiling, with the bush tax cuts. people are number to this. they do this every christmas. they don't care. >> bill: look. number one, when you say 16 trillion dollar debt, it doesn't mean to anybody. >> you can't wrap your head around that. >> bill: if you said look, if you don't make your car payment, they know. >> that's real money. >> bill: number two, it's a pretty complicated situation. it'sua not just raising the taxs on the wealthy and corporations, there's a lot of other stuff involved in it as well. out of the two dozen peo